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Fluoride Free Beer and Wine?
Published 9/10/2011 Location: Australia The Peoples Article Visit the origional article


As most Australians love a beer I thought I’d create an article for open discussion on 'natural' beer and wine.

What do you know about the Australian beer and wine industry with regards to Fluoride/Toxins, raw ingredient, organics/gm , and the ownership of these companies?


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View Point - Article Summary by Ged Johnson 9/10/2011
As most Australians love a beer I thought I’d create an article for open discussion on 'natural' beer and wine.

What do you know about the Australian beer and wine industry with regards to Fluoride/Toxins, raw ingredient, organics/gm , and the ownership of these companies?

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AgreeGed (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
Coopers Australia?I contacted Coopers in Adelaide in 2009 about their beer regarding fluoride – I was hoping to advertise them on this site. They declined as they didn’t want any political exposure as it would divide their consumers. However, they sent back images of their plant with large industrial Reverse Osmosis systems (RO) that feed into the tanks proving that they were fluoride free.(I cant find the email sorry). I then called to ask if the grains were organic, they advised me that they were naturally grown but not organic. I still would like to know if they were “GM Monsanto natural”, ha!

I love beer and I brew coopers beer myself. It dodges the tax man and doesn’t fund the big boys.
Coopers are the only beer company that never sold out. Surviving the early 1900 was an amazing achievement when you look at the laws and recession of the time. They now export their beer around the world and in the home brew community they are leading the way. Quite unique I say.

 
Previously AgreeBehalf of Alan (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
aLAN (Saturday, 8 October 2011 )
I just received a reply from Carlton United Breweries. They use fluoridated Melbourne Water to brew their beers and they DON`T use reverse omosis to take the fluoride out. They only use carbon filters which knowingly does not remove fluoride.

As the mafia(gov.) is not listening to us, we need to contact the corporations. When thousands of people keep contacting beer companies asking them if they brew their beer with fluoridated water, that will put pressure on them. Tell them that you will only buy imported beer.

 
Previously AgreeWoolies and Coles (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
Woolies and Coles overview, yep they own more beer stores/clubs/pubs than I thought. You goto love Capitalism.


 
Vote not verified by user email yet | Previously AgreeCUB Beer List (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
If Carlton United Breweries (or Foster’s Australia) don`t use Reverse Osmosis then these beers must contain fluoride. I guess some maybe exempt if imported. My understanding is they brew the imported beers here. Anyone?

List of CUB beers Link http://cub.com.au/beer
Abbotsford, Asahi, Carlsberg,Carlton,Cascade,Corona,Crown,Fiji,Fosters,Great Northern,Hoegaarden,KB,Kronenbourg 1664
Leffe,Matilda Bay,Melbourne Bitter,NT,Power`s,Pure Blonde,Reschs,Sheaf,Stella Artois,Vailima,VB


 
NeutralDaniel Zalec (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
fluoridefreemurray.org/news/85-mildura-beer-advertisement-by-wayne-evans

 
NeutralHereward Fenton (Sunday, 9 October 2011 )
Thanks for maintaning this great website.

I would love to believe that Coopers really filter the fluoride out of their beer, but it bothers me that they are not willing to make a formal statement to that effect.

Showing you a photograph of a reverse osmosis filter proves nothing.

I would want to see a legally binding statement.

I ONLY drink imported beer now.

 
NeutralaLAN (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
I contacted solbeer.com.au, the Australian website of the imported Mexican beer Sol. I was not totally sure if Mexico fluoridates water. I got an email back today. To my surprise the email came from Woolworths and it said, YES they use fluoridated water to brew the Sol beer...That really surprised me.
So another beer on my blacklist. I just stick to European beer, but not from England. The rest of Europe should be fine. However it won`t stop me from contacting more corporations just to make them aware that I care!
Because saying nothing is equal to full and unconditional consent!

 
NeutralaLAN (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
@CUB Beer List: You are correct. Some overseas beer brands are brewed in Australia under licence. It is stated on the bottle/keg where it`s made. For example some Heineken is made in Australia and some is imported. I got a Heineken party keg with me now, and it says, brewed in Holland. If it`s made in Australia you can be 99% sure it`s made with fluoridated water. All `overseas` brands served on tap in a pub are brewed in Australia.

 
NeutralNatalia (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
I only know about sulphites in wine, is not good for people with weaken immune system. I would like to hear more. thanks

 
NeutralDaniel Zalec (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
Beer/Wine... fluoridealert.org/fluoride-dangers/sources-of-fluoride.aspx

 
Neutralnat (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
can you please tell me what imported beers are fluorided free? would appreciate your answer. meanwhile I would ask the same to australian beer makers. thanks..

 
NeutralDavid (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
Not sure about the alcohol industry but I would not presume they care much about fluoride in the water. After all people drink this stuff not for health but recreation.

I like one of the comments here pointing to the Mildura Beer. Will see if I can get some.

 
NeutralMerilyn Haines (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
I have tested some beers for fluoride,what I seen so far they have approx 75% to 100% the concentration of fluoridated water. Wines however mostly seem to have much lower levels of fluoride.

 
NeutralColin Bishop (Monday, 10 October 2011 )
OK - thanks Merilyn.

I contacted XXXX a few years ago and they use the treated/fluoridated water --- never touched a drop since.

The Guinness brewery in Ireland also uses the fluoridated water.

 
NeutralBrianbrain (Wednesday, 12 October 2011 )
OK how about someone putting up a list of the companies that use fluoridated water for the beer and all the juice ones as well.Perhaps some email to overseas beer sellers in the EU who might not want to hear the news ....

 
NeutralColin Bishop (Wednesday, 12 October 2011 )
@Brianbrain

If readers would like to send me the information I am prepared to contact the companies and do the research.

I am notified of mail as it comes into this forum.

Cheers

 
NeutralaLAN (Wednesday, 12 October 2011 )
As a rule of thumb so far, if you want to stay away from beer brewed with fluoridated water:

Avoid all beer on tap(even overseas brand, because they are brewed in Australia under licence).
Avoid all beer brewed in countries that have water fluoridation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoridation_by_country

Exceptions in Australia(claimed by the manufacturers themselves and not independently confirmed): Coopers, Mildura Beer

Check the bottle/can/party keg in which country it is brewed.


 
NeutralBrianbrain (Wednesday, 12 October 2011 )
So basically only 2 companies dont use fluoridated water ??? ...I also had the thought of all fruit drinks and animals at the yards for slaughter and all the chicken ,even free range and do the eggs contain fluoride ????Take Bakers delight ...do they use the tape water for the dough mix ?????
Water mix in the milks,all of them except raw milk...
There is a lot to push to find out....

 
NeutralDaniel Zalec (Thursday, 13 October 2011 )
Ethan A. Huff article re-posted at PrisonPlanet.com: prisonplanet.com/hundreds-of-brave-dentists-speak-out-against-water-fluoridation.html

 
NeutralaLAN (Thursday, 3 November 2011 )
Ok, I saw that older ad of Mildura beer claiming to be fluoride-free. However I`ve gone through their whole website and did not find a single word about fluoride. I emailed them several weeks ago, and got no reply. So I assume, their beer is brewed with fluoridated water.

Secondly, since the Mexican beer company SOL confirmed to me personally, that they use fluoridated water, and since Wikipedia states that Mexico fluoridates its town water, it must be assumed that CORONA is brewed with fluoridated water too. I don`t even bother asking them. I don`t particularly like Corona anyway. I just stick to beer brewed in Germany or Holland. I like it and it is definitely fluoride-free.

 
NeutralMark (Monday, 14 November 2011 )
Hi Guys, It was this very question I was asking that brought me to this site. I however would rather ask the question..How does home brewing beer or the brewing process affect the fluoride in the water I use for brewing?

There are many chemical changes to the water in the brewing process, originally beer was used as a way of improving the shelf life of water on trips etc. so for instance does the yeast bind impurities contained in the water? or does gelatine used as finings?

Possibly it is bound by the solids and / or tannins in the beer or as the yeast settles to the bottom does it take the evil crap with it? Does the acidity of the sugar have an effect? carbonation? temperature? I`m sure you can see that there may be an upside to beer... besides the obvious. Is there an easy (or difficult) way to measure the amount of fluoride in water (or beer). We use distilled water for cooking and drinking but only filtered water for beer. I hope for some good discussion on this.
Mark

 
NeutralFluoride Fighter (Monday, 14 November 2011 )
Mark, are you asking if fluoride will be neutralised by the process of making beer?

The answer is no - I have had beer tested and if it is made with fluoridated water then it is still there.

Sorry but you can always count the fluoride to your daily consumption dose!

 
NeutralGed (Monday, 14 November 2011 )
Yea Mr Fluoride Fighter is right - fluoride is still there after fermentation.

This is what I do.

Strip the town water right back with a Reverse Osmosis filter system. Then build the water with salts like..table salt,Epsom salt,Calcium Chloride,Baking Soda. Its great for the syrup kits you get in cans and it also brings the PH back up. I`ve been filtering the water since day dot but have been adding the salts since last week.

We now use this same process for our drink water also.

I haven`t done a full mash yet but they recommend adding salts later as a mash works well with a low PH in the mid 5s.

Check out this link
www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/building-brewing-water-reverse-osmosis-ro-water-50850

 
NeutralGed (Tuesday, 15 November 2011 )
Heres a thought, if yeast is a living organism then surely a schedule 7 toxin must effect the fermentation process in some way.

 
NeutralS D (Saturday, 24 December 2011 )
I emailed coopers yesterday and they replied that none of there beer or home brew products contain fluoride or aluminium. So it must be true about their reverse osmosis with none added either :)

 
NeutralMark (Saturday, 24 December 2011 )
Stands to reason if they had a good product before fluoride was added to the water why would they want to risk adding it to their beer?
Leave it out and you have the same good product...

 
NeutralaLAN (Saturday, 24 December 2011 )
There seems to be a misunderstanding here. The other beer companies are NOT adding fluoride to their beer, but they use town water which is fluoridated by the government. Coopers, I heard, use their own spring water.

 
NeutralMark (Saturday, 24 December 2011 )
No misunderstanding...

 
NeutralS D (Sunday, 25 December 2011 )
Yeah Alan. I understand what youre saying. Im saying theres no incidental or added fluoride in Coopers. Peace.

 
AgreeColin Bishop (Sunday, 25 December 2011 )
Guinness from Ireland was supposed to be made from natural spring water - eventually they had to tell the truth!

 
NeutralBrianbrain (Sunday, 25 December 2011 )
Keep the info coming .You may like to know that Brumbys and Bakers delight although removing additives still use MAINS TAP water to mix the dough which is still adding fluoride to the breads ....

 
AgreeBenny (Sunday, 29 January 2012 )
Time for everyone to stop sitting on their glands and to stop reacting with the standard indoctrinated knee-jerk incredulity and hapless ignorant apathy. I have highly educated friends willing to shout me down over the mere proposition that non-medical grade industrial waste fluoride, dumped into on water is anything other than a gift from God himself.

I gave up on every Aussie beer a while ago now - will only drink real German or Polish etc (the UK is far gone also) - All i can do is limit the exposure, prepared restaurant food, showers etc are still defiling my health but whatever I can do, I will. I value my sperm count, cognition and pineal gland etc etc.

Shame because some Aussie beers are really good.
I was excited to see Coopers have Reverse Osmosis. Here is another link seems to quantify the no fluoride status : http://www.coopers.com.au/corporate/environment

Much Toxic Free Love!

 
NeutralPeter (Tuesday, 31 January 2012 )
I contacted Coopers by email and got a very fast response confirming the fact that their beer does not contain fluoride

 
NeutralMartin (Saturday, 24 March 2012 )
Firstly, thanks for this awesome website, I have been looking for this kind of discussion on un-fluoridated beer.

Aside from (presumably) Coopers, there is another Aussie brewery I know that has no fluoride in it`s beers.

Cascade Brewery in Hobart uses water from the stream behind the brewery, which runs off Mt Wellington. The brewery is open to public tours by the way. From their website:

`Our water isn`t just any water - it comes from Mt.Wellingon, which lies directly behind the brewery. It is said that this is one of the purest water sources in the world for it comes directly from rain clouds originating in the untouched South.`

Cascade brews great beers too. So I recommend you support this Aussie company before buying imported beer.

 
NeutralaLan (Thursday, 29 March 2012 )
I contacted DAquino Group of Companies who distributes the PREMIUM CLEANSKIN BEER in Australia. This beer is brewed by the Hite Brewery in Korea. I was pretty sure, that Korea does not fluoridate its water, but I asked them anyway. They confirmed to me that Premium Cleanskin beer is brewed with unfluoridated water.

 
AgreeLaurie Agar (Tuesday, 19 June 2012 )
There is just no need for it.. If you want fluoride you can buy fluoride toothpaste or fluoride tablets.. It is not fair that we have no choice in this matter..

 
NeutralS D (Tuesday, 19 June 2012 )
Fluoride is about more than just beer. If your drinking water is contaminated, your cooking is contaminated as well. I dont have my own Reverse Osmosis (RO) system but use a water vending machine with 2 15 litre water bottles.

 
NeutralaLAN (Tuesday, 19 June 2012 )
I cook my rice, bake my bread and almost everything else with bottled water. Except like boiling potatoes or similar things where water needs to be thrown away. No way I let the gov`t drug my brain and become a submissive, apathetic tax slave to them. That`s exactly what the gov`t wants, but not what I want! I already made plans, in case the gov`t bans bottled water, I`ll leave the country.

 
NeutralS D (Wednesday, 20 June 2012 )
Alan: I hope you are using nobles pureau bottled water - Most other bottled water has fluoride added cos its now the law to add fluoride to bottled water in Australia.


 
NeutralaLAN (Thursday, 21 June 2012 )
S D: I think you are wrong here. I could not find any report stating that the fluoridation of bottled water had become mandatory. Do you have a link?

 
NeutralS D (Friday, 22 June 2012 )
Sorry Alan. I may be wrong. Although I have read that some bottled water has fluoride added since 2008. If I were you I wouldnt trust my water supply to corporations. Paranoid yes, safe yes. Ive been buying Reverse Osmosis water from a water - adding sea salt for softening. Probably better to use rock-salt.

 
NeutralAFAMildura (Friday, 22 June 2012 )
I think the article that sparked this issue is Push for fluoride in bottle water (The Age, November 12, 2008). Also see, Fluoride fight is bottled water better? (Today Tonight, March 24, 2008) Quote: Dr Harms says Australians should also be wary of calls to add fluoride to bottled water.

 
NeutralMonica (Tuesday, 3 July 2012 )
In 2009 Food Standards Australia & NZ approved the VOLUNTARY addition of fluoride to non-carbonated packaged bottled water products.
Decision - FSANZ approves amendment of Standard 2.6.2 – Non-Alcoholic Beverages and Brewed
Soft Drinks to permit the addition of fluoride to non-carbonated packaged water to
between 0.6 and 1.0 mg/L (total of naturally occurring and added fluoride) and to
require mandatory labelling for food identification purposes to indicate that fluoride
has been added.
In addition, to make consequential amendments to Standard 1.3.3 and Standard 2.6.2
for clarification of permission for the addition of fluoride to packaged water.

 
NeutralMargaret (Saturday, 21 July 2012 )
Not only the beer will be affecvted. What about all of our drinks, food and especially baby food, as well as having fluoridatee water added to it.
Can someone (like a solicitor) organise a class action against the different States Health Departments (please)

 
NeutralaLAN (Thursday, 26 July 2012 )
Just picked up and enjoying a sixpack of BAVARIA, imported from Holland. I noticed the label saying: Brewed with pure mineral water from our own spring. Looks like they are reacting to their overseas customers and writing this specifically on the label. In Europe it is normal for breweries to have their own spring. There is no reason to buy Australian beer brewed with crappy tap water, which usually is just filtered and fluoridated dam water. Water out of a lake, where fish live inside and other animals, full of bacteria which the government then kills off with loads of cancer-causing chlorine, yuk!
By the way this Bavaria beer is alright, a little bit on the bitter side. There is better to be found.

 
NeutralDamo (Friday, 9 November 2012 )
Mountain Goat have fluoride in their beers

 
NeutralAFAMildura (Saturday, 10 November 2012 )
Alan: European beers have always been brewed in this manner, especially in Germany, where they adhere to the German Purity Law. They are not appealing to international demand, rather, they are simply following their own usual standards of purity and perfection.

 
NeutralDamo (Saturday, 10 November 2012 )
The thing that bugs me is Mountain Goat (and other micro brewers) make big claims to be ORGANIC even though, as we all know here, that the fluorisilsic acid is an inorganic compound (man made chemical). So how can these beers be organic if they have an inorganic compound in their water, which is 98% of the product....?

 
NeutralAFAMildura (Saturday, 10 November 2012 )
Damo, check this out: fluoridealert.org/issues/sources/

 
NeutralGed (Sunday, 11 November 2012 )
Does anyone know about GMO grains being used in beer here in Australia?

Both Fluoride and GMO are not required to be printed on a label. That really sux for consumers who are conscience about what they feed their body

This study on GMO makes one think...
www.naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html

 
NeutralDOUGO (Tuesday, 29 January 2013 )
I recently contacted Cascade and was informed `all our locally produced beers are made with water supplied from statutory authories who, in all areas, fluoridate the water. The filtration process at the brewery may remove some fluoride, and there is some weak evidence that indicates that some of the fluoride may be removed with spent grains and yeast-but there has been no conclusive studies` Although from the pure source of mount Wellington, they still poison it before they add to beer.

 
Neutraldamo (Thursday, 31 January 2013 )
In SA Campus Brewery across the road from Coopers uses reverse osmosis water to brew the beers they sell so are fluoride free. also West End has their own aquifer on site they draw from which then gets reverse osmosis filtered before being used in brewing. They also sell this water to the public on Port Road

 
NeutralJB (Monday, 4 February 2013 )
Hi All,

I just contacted Coopers asking whether they use reverse osmosis and there response was:

`We use desalinated (RO) bore water.`

So I think this is good news....

 
Agreetokin (Thursday, 21 February 2013 )
ffbeers.com/

This website shows fluoride content in popular beers, says Becks from Germany has a fluoride content.. wtf?

 
NeutralDamo (Saturday, 30 March 2013 )
Here`s a letter I have written to 7 Organic Certification Organisations across Australia. I`ll forward any answers I get (if any).

----

Regarding: Organic beverage certification question.

I have a question.
Can a beverage claim to be `organic` or carry an organic certification when it is manufactured from fluoridated drinking water and thus containing the chemical Fluorosilicic Acid – which is an `inorganic compound` and industrial waste byproduct from the fertiliser industry, used to fluoridate much of Australia`s drinking water?

An answer on this would be much appreciated as many products carrying the label `organic` contain simply tap water, which, if not filtered using reverse osmosis, still contains this inorganic compound and chemical Fluorosilicic Acid in Australia.

I will look forward to your response.

Kind regards,

 
NeutralDamo (Saturday, 30 March 2013 )
Here`s a reply I received from Mountain Goat regarding fluoride.
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Hey Damo,
No, we do have fluoride in our beer, we don`t have a reverse osmosis device!!

There`s nothing non-organic about fluoride, it`s really a personal thing...

Cheers,
Dave Bonighton
Co-Founder, Chief Brewer
Mountain Goat Brewery

 
NeutralGed (Friday, 26 April 2013 )
Very funny response Damo.

My good friend Frank runs a vineyard in central NSW. He makes a few types of chemical/toxin free wine, not a bad drop I must say.

I enjoyed long chats with Frank about fluoride and the chemicals used in the wine industry. ..its disappointing to find that even organic wine can be toxic due to loop holes in regulation…let alone how big chains like Coles/Woolies are eating up these unique products.
Anyhow, Frank makes awesome wine…my partner and the neighbourhood have tested it many times late into the night, ha! To help him spread the word I posted an advertisement on top of the page in gratitude.

It worth reading about his process and setup here www.bonicsestate.com/the-process


 
NeutralaLAN (Thursday, 2 May 2013 )
I still only drink import beer from countries, which don`t fluoridate(most countries really, except Singapore, Britain, Canada, USA, New Zealand, Mexico and Brasil). I will gladly support local beer factories, once they brew with proper pure water.

 
NeutralaLAN (Thursday, 4 July 2013 )
I just rang up the XXXX Brewery Castlemaine Perkins in Brisbane today. The phone operator did not even know that the Brisbane water is fluoridated... (talk about lack of common knowledge!), but he did confirm that the Brewery is using the same government threated dam water that comes out of the tap. The brewery then threats the water in certain ways but fluoride is probably not removed.

Well, clearly a reason to give their beers a miss. A brewery which is not committed to brew with 100% pure, unadultered, natural spring water (like European breweries do), is not worth getting my dollar. Thanks.

 
AgreeMark (digit) (Thursday, 4 July 2013 )
Ged and I talked about fluoride in home brew quite a while ago, and since then my home brew has been made with distilled water. I found however that it didn`t get a good head and at times no fizz at all. All that I did to fix the problem was to add to 46 lt around 2 desert spoons of Celtic sea salt, all the minerals you need on a daily basis. We also use the same salt exclusively in cooking, eating and sometimes a little in our distilled drinking water. It`s often quite dirty and wet but that`s how to tell you got the best, if it`s too clean, too white, too dry then some factory has had a play with it... :) BTW the beer is great!

 
NeutralFergus (Tuesday, 20 August 2013 )
bought a meter to measure fluorines, and it tells me there is 300ppm in my Coopers homebrew, 200+mg/kg in sugar and it gets through the still to and filters to show up in my vodka. Its in the bread. 3.5ppm in Boags premium. I assume the source might be fungicides used on cerial crops.

Its in wine, and milk and in tap water.

It is Prozac for the masses and death to those with high exposures.
The AHRC (au human rights council) don`t care.
EWO dont care
the doctors love the stuff
the farmers are killing themselves over it
and the kids are getting chemo for it.
Thanks imperialist corpoate politicians for the genocide you bring to my table. Enjoy your death and doing nothing about it. The kids are going to love you for it.

 
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NeutralFergus (Thursday, 10 October 2013 )
Hey, all of you, listen please! Yes there is fluorides in treated water, when they dont get it wrong its around 0.5 to 1.5 ppm, normally 0.7 to 0.8ppm. Thats Sodium Fluoride or Sodium Silica Fluoride or monofluorophosphate. Thats bad! but here is the facto-munto! The fluorides in beer come from several sources and in different menners. Firstly, out in the paddocks of barley, we have a plethora of fluoro-compounds as used in the ag industry. These fluorides are not single atom molecules but `poly` or `per`fluorated compounds containing up to 400 fluorine atoms. Secondly, we have the fumegant fluorides such as fluorosulfite useed to store and sterilize the grain, mandated on all imported raw foods and cerials. these are also mega-molecules like PTFE and PFOS or PFOA. (armoural/scotchguard). Thirdly, we have the malting process steam that cooks the already fluoridated barley with more fluorides that PER-FLUORIDATE the malt sugars. So, if you have an ion selective (exstik FL700) test meter you are measuring the number of perfluorated molecules in the malt by way of the TISAB reagent used. Now, if you use a photometer with the SPADNS reagent you measure the total fluorine ion content. Then you will see that much of what they say contains milligrams of fluoride per kilogram (ppm) actually has HUNREDS of MILLIGRAMS of FLUORINE!!!!!!!
Stop messing around with the facts.
Get a photometer like an `eXact micro20` for around $600 and stay safer.
Once you`ve got your photometer and SPANDS reagent get ready for the bad news. Chem-trails are a fact. They hit our organic crops. :(

 
NeutralFergus (Thursday, 10 October 2013 )
forgot to mention CHICKENS: up to 2000 mg FLUORINES per bird, organic or not, and nuggets etc wtf.

 
Neutralstewart keeble (Monday, 14 October 2013 )
Hi there, could you please forward me a list of beers/spirits that are usually served in Australian pubs, that are GMO and Fluoride free.
Many thanks Stewart

 
NeutralGed (Tuesday, 29 October 2013 )
Hey Stewart, unfortunately there is no beer/spirits list. It would be very hard to make such a list let alone trust it. Would be easier if breweries print `GMO free` or `Fluoride Free` on their labels.

I doubt breweries would even know themselves if it was GMO free. Heck, the word organic doesn`t mean GMO free.

 
NeutralEliza (Tuesday, 29 October 2013 )
Going through some of the previous emails, people have already been in touch with the breweries and most of them use fluoridated water - apparently except Coopers. My nephew finds that Coopers is the only one he can drink without getting sinus.
It is different with the wine companies as there are a lot of smaller private one. But the emails SUGGESTED THEY DID FIND SOME. I DON`T KNOW IF THE GERMAN BEER IS BOTTLED IN Australia OR NOT, BUT THEY DON`T BELIEVE IN FLUORIDATION.

 
NeutralaLAN (Wednesday, 23 July 2014 )
Update: I contacted Independent Liquor NZ.

They told me they use fluoridated municipal water for their beers. They say they use carbon filtration but most fluoride remains in the water.

Best value beers without fluoride in my view are: Hollandia (Holland), Henninger(Germany), Arc Valley(Holland), Oranjeboom (Holland).

I am not sure about Cleanskin(South Korea). According to Wikipedia 29 out of 250 municipal governments in South Korea fluoridate. I don`t trust it.

What a rubbish situation we have in Australia. Most of Europe can get high quality fluoride free Lager for between 10 and 20 Dollars a carton. I may have to take up homebrewing.

 
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